The Body Contained in the Spirit – A Conversation with Paul Walker

K: I’m super excited! Sue me.

P: I’m not suing anyone but if I don’t get in here right now, I’m not coming in for a while. You’ll be too consumed with what you’re reading and remembering through that. Seriously, Kim. You latch on to what you remember, and you can’t let it go.

K: Because it’s like going home! That feeling of returning to something.

P: And I get that. I completely understand that. It’s a door and you can come and go from that, but I would like to get a channel in before all that happens.

K: You could come with me…

P: (grins)

K: I mean…you all could…

P: Why do you think you got the idea in the first place. We all want to, but we all want to be…we still want this side too.

K: Okay, okay. Blah. I’m already a few pages in.

P: I thought it was pretty funny that you couldn’t sleep last night like you were going on some big trip.

K: Well, if you think about it, I sort of am.

P: Yeah. (nods) Anyway, let’s do this and then we’ll go into the book.

K: Okay. Cool. (feeling very hyped up)

P: Woah…don’t rush me. (chuckles) Take a breath, Kim.

K: I swear to God, Walker, if you keep me here on purpose, we will have words.

P: I’m counting on it.

K: Okay, let’s do this. So, when I wrote this down, I saw you raise your hand.

P: When you wrote what down? (screwing with me)

K: (steady look with a long pause) Come on!

P: Okay. (holds up his hands) Okay. Jude much?

K: Not funny.

P: (smiling and getting comfortable in the chair. knees are spread but he’s bouncing his heel, thinking) I wanted to talk about the concept…sort of a hanged man turning upright a bit…deal. I wanted to talk about the body being in the spirit and not the spirit in the body.

K: Yeah. That was interesting to me. When I got your message, I paused to chew on it. It’s sort of like this…I thought of Stranger Things…in a better way than the show…but how I saw it is…we live in this inverted matrix, right?

P: Yes.

K: And we have these beliefs or ways of thinking that sometimes are pretty upside down…like the upside-down world in Stranger Things…ugh…I think that’s what the show was. Maybe it was a different one. It’s been years since I saw it and I didn’t watch the last season.

P: (thinks) More like an Alice in Wonderland trip…Alice through the looking glass…that’s a bit more in line.

K: Whatever the example, if we consider the inversion…and I even had a yoga teacher say that the brain thinks in opposites…

P: Yeah.

K: The idea that we house the soul within us is very…it’s a very narrow way of thinking. Spirit…soul…I need to toss that distinction aside when I talk about this because I just can’t split it up like that right now.

P: It’s okay and it is that narrow way because if you consider the idea that the human aspect of the higher self is just a facet or an extension of something bigger, than the human body is sort of encapsulated within the spirit because the spirit can extend and stretch to unlimited degrees. The life…the life is just the higher self watching this movie on a big screen but the higher self, at the same time as watching what a person remembers what they’re living right now…that higher self is also watching other lives that are going on simultaneously but it's the same spirit. It’s in the same theater so, all those television screens are housed within that higher…oneness…awareness which really means that the human is existing in the spirit and the spirit isn’t really existing in the human.

K: You’re having trouble finding the words for this.

P: I am. I really am. (thinks) Maybe it’s time to consider a different way of looking at who someone is…that it’s just…it’s simply only a projection on a screen of what the higher self is doing and it’s still contained within that higher aspect. The whole movie theater.

K: This would…it would kind of argue the whole Akash thing or the whole…you pick a life and are born to that life.

P: I get that. Because it’s that very narrow way of viewing…life. And, I mean, it’s understood why. It’s understood why that happens. Because anything too big too…overwhelming…the possibility of that sort of flies out the window because of how a human brain is conditioned. You remember the Star Trek…that next generation show?

K: Yes.

P: And people…aliens…whatever, went into this room where it was this holographic display where people could live out certain programming like…this guy could be Sherlock Holmes and this woman could be…I don’t know…some queen in history or this couple could play Fred Astaire and Greta Garbo in some black and white film but make it their own?

K: I loved those episodes.

P: But they were still them. (talking with his hands) They were still the people…the crew on the Voyager. They just plaid different parts…as someone else…a character of their own making or choosing to get creative about or learn from or just be different for a bit.

K: For sure.

P: That’s the idea. Think of the person creating that computer program as the higher self…yeah?

K: Yes.

P: They build the program and enter the room and press start.

K: Yes.

P: That’s the idea. The program is coming from within. It’s not separate from them. They are still very much within that. I guess people could argue that it’s still happening outside of them, and I get that but it really isn’t. That room…the higher self is the center of that because the show is playing out with them there.

K: I feel like…it’s this…one second. I have to look it up…like a torus vortex of energy. It’s…all of these pieces…these delicate facets of this torus vortex and they are constantly moving around while still maintaining it’s center…it’s still very encapsulated while having this moving…flowing feeling.

P: I see where you’re going. Yeah…it’s similar.

K: But there is still so much that goes into it. (thinking and feeling my mouth fill up with unspoken words) Whenever something is so big…like talking about something so big, my mouth fills with energy that wants to be spoken but it doesn’t have the words or the language for it.

P: (nods) That’s when the spirit…because remember, the body is in the spirit…is trying to express something that can’t be expressed with the human language.

K: Wow!

P: Let’s dive a little deeper now.

K: Okay.

P: You had written something down and I wanted to drop it here.

K: Sure.

P: So…now…the human is contained in the spirit. The spirit isn’t contained in the human.

K: Got it.

P: That blows…wide open…the fact that now…there exists portals around a person that can easily be opened and walked through now that the human understands that they are within the spirit.

K: Crazy!

P: Because…if the spirit was in the human…the spirit is in some sort of lamp that needs to be rubbed to be set free.

Hearing faint music.

K: (laughing) You did that on purpose!

P: What?

K: Dirty old man!

P: No way! I didn’t.

K: Who’s playing Christina Aguilera? Genie in a Bottle?

P: Not me!

K: We have eavesdroppers! (shouting in a whisper)

P: (chuckles) Is this mic on?

K: Right?

P: Since the human is in the spirit…the spirit is always a gateway…like that Star Trek room. And people are more than capable of walking through those gateways…the invitation is always there. This is what hypnosis is. This is what DMT is…psychedelics unlock these gateways. They cut the lock. That’s why these substances are so addictive. It’s because they unlock the portals and allow the human to interact with what’s behind the doors. But the computer program also picks up on the human fears and nightmares...what those brains can create so to go down this road of opening portals just for the hell of it…isn’t a good idea. There is training involved. Hypnosis…a great thing…but it needs to be done carefully because opening those portals doesn’t always lead to the happy places. They can open to no fly zones and you’ve…(points to me) have had those experiences.

K: For sure. I have. They are not great. (thinks) Here’s a question.

P: Fire away.

K: When someone dreams…is the human…basically stepping into or opening the curtains to other extensions of the higher self? Because…the higher self has all those different screens going on.

P: Yeah…dreaming…the person is able to step back into…for lack of a better word…the “real” (finger quote) reality. It’s walking through a portal into another projection of the higher self.

K: This is actually nuts.

P: Here’s something else. It’s a simple key without the drugs…

K: Okay.

P: Books…I’m a big believer in books. This is what we do together…

K: Yes.

P: Books unlock those portals as well. Honestly, (crosses an ankle over a knee) there is always a reason a person picks up a book. Always. And I will tell the readers now…in this new energy…start picking up a genre of book that you have never been into. New portals are being unlocked and opened by different and the best way to remember…remember lives or wisdom…even diving into that Akash that everyone is craving to do…

K: Wow.

P: Is to open a book. Start reading. Start stretching the imagination into something different that you’re not necessarily used to or “into” (finger quote). People who write books…short or long…1 star or 5…are wisdom keepers from portal to portal to portal. The star rating is usually indicative of something that people just don’t recognize or what they aren’t used to. It’s indicative of stepping out of a comfort zone and if it works for them or not.

K: No arfing way!

P: And there are going to be way more…what the fuck kind of books that are going to be written for this exact purpose. Because the reader can get all of this information because they are willing to understand that the human is in the spirit and not the other way around. The author will write about the portals that they have just unlocked within them and the reader will take that key and unlock their own portals. It’s a shared experience and one that is very important going forward.

K: I have no words.

P: Doom scrolling…just a distraction or…(lifts a finger) can point the way to a great read that will help a person remember a lifetime ago.

K: 100%! I have a title in mind, that I picked up from Insta that just popped in. Weird how that happens because my algorithm is not that…

P: Yeah.

K: And it wouldn’t let me sleep. The possibility of reading it…couldn’t sleep. Honestly, like we were discussing earlier…I couldn’t sleep because I felt very strongly that it would take me somewhere that I needed to awaken to or remember.

P: And that’s what this is going to do. There will be that anticipation like…someone won’t be able to sleep because they’re moving somewhere, or they have a big trip to go on or…there’s a big event…they’re about to meet that one celebrity that does it for them. (winks)

K: (laughin)

P: The anticipation will be very real and the excitement will…a person won’t be able to contain that excitement. (rolls his eyes at me) Kim!

K: (guilty but impatient) I know.

P: I’m talking!

K: I’m just super excited.

P: (annoyed chuckle shaking his head) You drive me nuts. (rubbing his face) She drives me nuts. (to himself)

K: Is there anything else that can open these portals now that we can sort of catch a glimpse that the human isn’t the stand alone “thing” we thought it was. It’s the other way around.

P: For sure. Music. Music is a huge teleporter back and/or towards the center of that spirit to choose another door. Music and sound. Those binaural beats or those solfeggio frequencies are keys. But…see…when I say that, people will try right away and assume that it will work like this…(snaps fingers) but the ego has to get out of the way first and that initial…instant gratification…that’s ego and that really has to be put to bed.

K: Damn ego. Always the ego!

P: Kim, if all of this was just unlocked…immediately…it would be chaos. There has to be control. If there is no control, you’d have billions of human beings being kids that just got a Costco size box of chocolate…sugar and caffeine…running around halfcocked with no direction.

K: Your point?

P: Guides…ghosts…angels…whatever…we’re the parents that give the chocolate. We have to guide people into doing this…it’s a transition.

K: Explain that then. Like guides and angels…things of that nature. They can come into that torus vortex?

P: To put it simply, guides and angels are the friend that stays sober. We’re the designated driver of that aspect of the spirit in that portal or all portals…depending on the relationship.

K: Interesting.

P: We make sure you get home safely and put to bed.

K: You said depending on the relationship?

P: Yeah. Maybe that’s something we can talk about at some point. When a…I don’t know…the psychic someone goes to…they see a hundred angels…

K: Yes.

P: It’s for the whole higher self of that person. This angel goes to that portal and this angel goes to that one and this angel goes to this door over here. It’s just…that psychic has the ability to pick up on all of that. These psychic readers are pretty good at past life or Akash readings. It’s not a hard and fast rule but it’s a pretty general understanding. (thinks) It’s like…what Kryon always said…the soup. The higher self is the pot of broth, and the ingredients make…well…the soup. It’s the soup of God.

K: This talk doesn’t even touch the immensity of this does it?

P: (shakes his head) Nope. I wish it could but…you can’t put the eternal in a small lamp and say that’s everything. It’s not. It can’t be but I guess that’s why we’re still here after eleven years.

K: Wow. Has it been that long? I genuinely don’t even think of it like that.

P: For you. For me…it’s been lifetimes.

K: And I appreciate that.

P: (nods) I know you do.

K: So…can we go now?

P: (nods his head in frustration and bites his bottom lip a little bit) We’re talking. Sharing good information.

K: I know but think about the information we can share when I remember more…and have questions…jut think about it.

P: (stares at me with wheels spinning)

K: Just think…(leading him on in a whisper)

P: Okay. Let’s go.

K: Yes!

P: Blog this first.

K: Okay. (totally ignoring him and he knows it)

P: (points to me) Blog it first.

K: Geez! Okay. I’ll blog it first…dad.

P: I’ll make a call.

Happy dance. I see him grab a phone out of pocket and fade into the background.

Images shown are representational and experiential rather than historical.