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Does a Ghost Believe in Spells? – A Conversation with Paul Walker

  • Feb 4
  • 9 min read

Updated: Feb 5

Paul Walker

K: Okay! Jesus! I have things on the go today, Paul.

 

Sees me come in and sits in the chair.

 

P: Not obvious to me but okay.

 

K: I do. It’s just getting…taking me a hot minute to get motivated.

 

P: You’re not the only one, Mrs. There are a few that find motivation, right now, tough to feel. I’ll give it to you…it’s been busy. The thing that’s cool is that the busy…that people are feeling…isn’t in the daily. It’s the energy that they’re picking up that’s surrounding them which has that busy feeling. Like they’ve worked a whole week and it’s only Monday.

 

K: For real. I feel that in my soul.

 

P: But it isn’t necessarily in the daily grind. It can be. I mean…generally…it can be but it’s more the…how do I say this.

 

He’s showing me all these threads around someone…thousands of threads and strings and how these threads interacted before is nothing like how they’re moving and interacting now.

 

K: The threads…that is so interesting. I can see it. It’s like these threads acted like slow and gentle waves before and now they’re whipping around like a tornado.

 

P: Yes. (wags his finger at me) Exactly. There is so much of the unseen…that people can’t see, that is so busy a person would consider it to be a bit frantic and that is the energy that people are picking up beyond what they’re living day to day.

 

I’m wearing headphones with no music because I can’t channel if I have music on and I just heard his physical voice through the headphones. I feel a bit surprised because I wasn’t expecting it. Like hearing something on a transmission radio.

 

K: Holy…you’ve never done that before.

 

P: Here’s the thing that I want people to know about the busy and frantic energies coming in. It’s…like a duster removing a bunch of dust. It’s dusting off or removing all this static around anyone so that the awareness of “more” (finger quote) is clearer.

 

K: How does a ghost feel about that?

 

P: It’s exciting. It’s really cool. I’ve been waiting awhile for this to hit. But I’ve also been putting in the work to help clear away that static. I guess…I should say we…all this stuff. But when that palpable feeling comes…when you know something is working and the experiment is going your way…it’s exciting. I’m excited.

 

K: It’s been a group effort on the part of all you guys. I’m just a channel.

 

P: You’re just a channel. Kim…give yourself a little more credit than that.

 

K: It’s been a journey. Credit…meh (shrugs). I do have some topics of conversation stored away but I’m not feeling that today. I looked and I’m like…blah.

 

P: (grins) Okay.

 

K: What did come to mind was…witchcraft…spells. I know we’ve talked about this before. I’m pretty sure we have. It’s been a long…time.

 

P: (grins) Long time. Sometimes fun…sometimes a shit show.

 

K: Exactly. It can’t all be roses

 

P: Don’t do that. (shakes his head then looks up sending a prayer of patience to the heavens)

 

K: What? When was the last time you threw me a bone?

 

P: (gestures towards something) I just did.

 

K: Blah…however…I could use those roses. I really could use those roses. Hint, hint.

 

P: I know you could.

 

K: Anyway. Spells? Witchcraft. As a ghost…do you believe in that stuff?

 

P: Hhhmmm…(thinks) I believe in the intent of it, if people want to call it spells or craft…witch…that’s not something that I get with…(shifts and thinks) I guess it all comes down to the human definition of that.

 

K: What would your definition be of spells and witchcraft?

 

P: Intention and the connection…the use of the human spirit.

 

K: Cool. Okay. When you say it like that, it feels way more powerful than just spells and witchcraft.

 

P: Witchcraft is the…it explores how powerful the human spirit is. The spells are just using that power to create an intention that moves towards something.

 

K: Do you continue to believe that innately…people are good, and they use these spells for good?

 

P: I do believe in the goodness of people. I feel like the sob stories are really heightened and draw attention to more of that. So, the sad and sob is seen a bit more because it’s drama based. But that’s turning. The attention span of those things is…it’s slowly decreasing because people want to highlight the good stuff. Yesterday, I saw someone who really gravitated towards the drama all the time…they flipped and instead of drowning in the drama and what wrongs have been done, they immediately flipped the script and removed themselves from that…looking at the situation from a higher vantage point.

 

K: Yes. For sure.

 

P: I think we’re in the middle of a time of earth where the scripts are being flipped. Instead of a lot of fear…people are finding their strength. Instead of feeling dislike or anger toward someone, they’re choosing to find the love and see the person for what’s really going on with them instead of an attack. Instead of hanging on to stress as a motivator, they’re holding onto peace and trusting in this idea of faith and now that all of that is happening…the spell work is cleaner. The witchcraft is higher in that vibration language that everyone likes to use. The idea (points to his temple) that what you put out into the world, comes back three-fold…bad or good…that’s not a story. That’s the real deal and people are slowly realizing that if this spell or this intention is about creating harm to someone or something else…they’ve felt that return to them and something in their life hasn’t gone…great and they understand that it was what they sent out that is returning to them. This isn’t make-believe. This is fact so this understanding…because it had to happen in their life…is flipping the script and making people consider…living on the flip side of intention. People’s eyes are going wide and it’s this collective…whoa, I gotta fix this fast. How much reversing do people have to do before they start driving straight again?

 

K: Wow.

 

P: The whole black magic…energetically, it’s not tolerated anymore. The whole…do unto others as you would have done onto you…is a real important piece of the puzzle right now because that boomerang effect is strong these days and moving forward. But that boomerang…coming back to the person that sent out that intention of black magic…it’s returning stronger…the strength of that is knocking them on their ass. It’s carrying with it…illness…loss…and when I say loss…I mean their circles of connection are getting smaller and smaller.

 

K: Why is that?

 

P: Because they need to learn how to flip the script for themselves and the others that are being hurt with their lower intentions are being protected and feel like it’s safe to walk in a different direction than just staying there and taking it on the chin…relentlessly.

 

K: What about those that…it’s like retaliation?

 

P: That’s war.

 

K: Yes.

 

P: War happens on the smallest of scales…personal scales and those larger global scales. Retaliation is…it’s more like a dance now. You know the sword dance…Samurai stuff.

 

K: I had to look it up but yes.

 

P: That’s some of the energy that’s playing out right now. Or…when someone throws a punch but it’s not to land…it’s to make someone flinch and then they say something stupid like, made you blink…like that makes them better or tougher or more intimidating…

 

K: Yes.

 

P: That’s a lot of the intention right now. The punch isn’t landing…the sword isn’t piercing but the intention is still bouncing off and returning from whence it came (winks) and these sorts of dances will be playing out and losing steam for a few more years yet.

 

K: But they’re losing steam?

 

P: They are because the knowledge of those bad intentions or those bad spells…coming back at them way stronger…is being felt hard core. People are being a bit more careful now. The playground fighting is less now. The enemies are looking at each other with a bit more understanding about why they do the things they do and underneath it all is because it’s being done out of fear and pain.

 

K: I think that’s probably a way of seeing the human spirit and instead of disempowering the spirit, there’s more empowering of the spirit.

 

P: Yeah…and this is gaining traction and momentum and when the power of the human spirit is used for good instead of harmful intent…it gives it room to grow. Sometimes…there is still a fight. Sometimes there is still a war and regardless of the size of that war…the effects of it still cut deep. It doesn’t matter if it’s within friendships…families…cities, or countries…people who used to crowd around these wars and support them…that circle around the playground bully fight isn’t so big. No one wants to watch it anymore. Instead, they’re calling in the teachers…the cops…to break it up fast.

 

K: Depends on the country. If you know you know.

 

P: I get what that means and there is a level of…to see it brings awareness of it and that’s the only way things will get worked out and stop is if it gets big enough that there is awareness of it. Things done under cover…the insidious…that has a harder time coming to light so it can be changed. Witchcraft and spell work isn’t just with the witches…it’s in the daily of the lives people are living. Those who get on board with that…practice…call it witchcraft but it’s the daily living of people because witchcraft is the energy of the elements…the earth and the sky…the moon. Everyone lives with that, so all of this stuff is…there in whatever way you want to name that.

 

K: Then the brooms and hats…the black cats…the superstition of it…the…costume of it…not for you?

 

P: (shakes his head) I believe in the energy of it and not necessarily what it looks like with the eyes.

 

K: Do you still choose to see with the eyes…the look of things or do you look deeper at the energy of things.

 

P: I do both. It depends on what I want to see. If we’re just having a coffee and I don’t…I’m off the clock…

 

K: (laughing a little bit)

 

P: I see with my physical eyes.

 

K: Got it.

 

P: If I’m on the clock and I’m boots on the ground, I choose to see past the energy of the ego and get down to the soul of anything. It’s easier to be a guide in that way.

 

K: Is it difficult to see…maybe feel would be a better word?

 

P: Yeah.

 

K: Is it easier to feel past the energy of the ego?

 

P: It’s easier to feel past the energy of a healthy ego and what I mean by that isn’t a healthy ego in the way someone would look at some celebrity only asking for green M&Ms.

 

K: Ha!

 

P: Carrying a dog in their sparkly Versace purse while wearing their Louboutins.

 

K: Oh my God. (shaking my head)

 

P: I mean the healthy ego as the divine masculine.

 

K: Survival without surviving.

 

P: Yeah. Exactly. Working with that divine feminine of the soul. The balanced sacral and solar plexus.

 

K: Wow! The imagery you’re showing me is amazing. Like this knight protecting the princess but if the princess wasn’t there…the knight’s purpose would be gone.

 

P: The divinity of the ego exists. It just doesn’t exist in the way people assume it does.

 

K: Wow! You can still make my jaw drop, Walker.

 

P: (playfully glaring)

 

K: DO NOT!

 

P: (winking)

 

K: Some things are just…always the same. I think…if it wasn’t…I’d be a little lost.

 

P: I’ll take that as a compliment.

 

K: It was intended that way.

 

P: (stares then snaps out of it) Anyway, going back to the feeling of being real busy…that’s not always the person but the energy around them that they are picking up on. It’s tangible right now. There is just something in the air that people can’t explain. They try to. They really do. They try to explain it with astrology or the sun’s little explosions toward earth or the moon…whatever it is. But this energy that people feel on the tips of their tongues…that they kind of grasp…with their fingertips because it’s that close…that’s way beyond any of those things that people are used to predicting with. It’s beyond that. It’s…directed by the finger of God.

 

K: That feels very big and very empowering.

 

P: I hope so because if it’s used right…0 to 60 in no time.

 

K: Still driving?

 

P: Still driving. My car just looks a little different.

 

K: For sure. Anyway, thanks for checking in.

 

P: Sure. Yeah. (nods a little then gets pensive) 

 

K: What are you thinking about? You’re coming and going today.

 

P: (rubs his bottom lip and bounces his knee) How…how I can do more.

 

K: You do a lot.

 

P: Still…I’d like to push the limits a bit. I’ll see what I can do. Get the day done, Mrs. We’ll talk later.

 

K: Chat later, Paul. Love you.

 

P: Love you. I’ll call you later.

 

Stands and leaves like he’s going to go check on something.


 
 

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